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Jay Edward
10-18-2004, 09:10 PM
I owned one of these once...but it was in 22 LR/ 20 Ga. This one is .223 Rem/12 Ga. Mine shot well and I packed it around for a number of years off and on. I thought one of my sons would want it but they chose other firearms. I think .22 Hornet/20 Ga. would be a good ranch rifle but perhaps you hold a different opinion.

drinksgin
10-18-2004, 09:39 PM
Jay;
I have a .22rf/20ga, very versatile, very easy to carry and use, really would like to find a .223 or .30-30 over 20ga.
Recently saw a .30-06, pardon me, 7.62x63 over 12ga in a local shop, but really do not care for either .
It is too bad Savage was not able to continue the over/under series, they are really nice for the one gun person.
Don

rockinbbar
10-18-2004, 10:00 PM
Jay,

I like the idea of a .223 over 20 ga. It would probably replace my Win.94 for my pickup gun.
I've always been attracted to the 24, just never got my hands on one.

Drinksgin,

Savage still makes the gun....It comes in 12ga & 20ga, with lots of calibers on top. The downside is, they are about $600 MSRP. I can't see how SAvage makes such an accurate bolt gun for less money than the simple mod. 24.....

Rockinbbar

Jay Edward
10-18-2004, 10:54 PM
I'm really curious guys...why the .223 Remington at the 'above' barrel? Is it just ammunition availability or is that you are thinking 'coyotes'?

rockinbbar
10-18-2004, 11:24 PM
Jay,

The .223 has enough power to put deer size game or coyotes down at 250-300 yards, so, it puts it above the smaller calibers & the 30-30 in my books. I shoot a Sav. .223 mod 10, so the ammo is very reasonable to put in lots of practice with as well.

I'm pickier with the .223 being the top barrel, than the shotgun barrel. I'd not care if it were 12, or 20 gauge, myself.

The thing that is attractive about the 24 is versatility. The .223 caliber on top just adds to that.

Rockinbbar

Hunterbug
10-19-2004, 09:56 AM
I think that the 223/12ga would be great for coyotes. Load the 12ga with some #4 buck and drop them from 30 feet to 300 yards!

drinksgin
10-19-2004, 10:48 AM
Jay;
I was thinking of being able to load the equivalent of .22mag to full house .223 for different game and situations, think lots of stock or houses around, but, I looked at Savage's spec's and the .223 barrel on the 24 is only 1 in 14 pitch, so useing anything heavier than 50 or 52 gr bullets would not likely be a choice, would be nice if the pitch was 1 in 9 as are the other Savage barrels.
Don

English
10-19-2004, 12:10 PM
Personally I would like a .410/.22. I believe this would be just the berries for squirrel hunting.

Mike

Gmoney
10-19-2004, 03:17 PM
Specialty Series Rifle/ShotgunsModel 24F-12 Combo Rifle/Shotgun



Caliber 12 GA, chambered for 3" shells. .22 Hor., .223 Rem., 30-30 Winchester Overall Length 40.5"

Barrel Length 24"

Weight 8 lbs.

Stock Black synthetic with positive checkering.

Sights Adjustable notched rear sight/bead front/B-Square™ mount included.

Rifling Rate of Twist

22 Hor. (1 in 14")223 Rem. (1 in 14")
30-30 Win.(1 in 12")
Features
Over/under rifle shotgun combination, top break action, ambidextrious opening lever, two-position cross-bolt safety, scope mount, and swivel studs. 12GA - modified choke tube.
Suggested Retail $629.00





Specialty Series Rifle/ShotgunsModel 24F-20 Combo Rifle/Shotgun

Caliber 20 GA, chambered for 3" shells. 22 L.R., .22 Hor., .223 Rem, 17HMR Overall Length 40.5"

Barrel Length 24"

Weight 8 lbs.

Stock Black synthetic with positive checkering.

Sights Adjustable notched rear sight/bead front/B-Square™ mount included.

Rifling Rate of Twist

22 L.R. (1 in 14")22 Hor. (1 in 14")
223 Rem. (1 in 14")
17HMR (1 in 9")
Features
Over/under rifle shotgun combination, top break action, ambidextrious opening lever, two-position cross-bolt safety, scope mount, and swivel studs. 20 GA modified choke tube.
Suggested Retail $598.00

Here are the descriptions of the 2 combo guns like Jay described that I copied and pasted from Savage's website. There are quite a few choices...personally I like the .223/12 guage combo...very, very versatile...

drinksgin
10-19-2004, 10:13 PM
English;
The first was a .22rf/.410 in the 30's, after WWII , a model with a molded plastic stock came out, this was not very popular, the stock was hollow, very light and had some low quality features , looked cheap, and was very inexpensive, about 25$.
I have a .22rf/20ga, picked it up at a going out of business sale at a Gibson's Bros. store about '85, the toe of the stock was broken off and missing, I believe I paid 30$ for it .
The current msrp of 600$ seems off the wall, I have seen some new ones for 379$, still really high compared to a NEF with 2 barrels, of course , the NEF does not have both barrels available at the same time.
It would be nice if some one started making USA made o/u combos at a reasonable price, don't hold your breath.
Don

Vacant
10-20-2004, 02:14 AM
I would take a Springfield M6 over any of the previously mentioned "survival" rifles.

http://www.springfield-armory.com/images/m6scout/m6scoutstainlesssteel.jpg

http://www.springfield-armory.com/prod-m6-m6rifles.shtml

Randy

Jay Edward
10-20-2004, 06:44 AM
Thereby hangs a tale of woe...I've been trying to get one of these for over a year.

firebird
10-20-2005, 03:28 AM
I love my .22 LR over 20 GA but would trade it in an instant for a .22 mag over 12Ga. It also comes with the new Hornady .17 Cal. over both 12 and 20 GA. Where I live it is too suburban for the loud calibers and the .22 mag is about the limit for noise without some anti gun nut calling the police to complain even though it is legal. They don't make it with .22 mag over 12GA at this time but I have seen one and the owner would not sell it even though I offered him the price of a new gun. Coyoties arn't tough. A load of copper plated BB,s penetrate quite well out to 35 YRDs or so. A head or neck shot from the little .22 mag with a 40gr. soft point will drop them quick out to 100 yrds. I guess the available .17 HRM over 12GA would be an alternate choice but I just don't like tiny little 17 gr. bullets on animals as big as coyots.
Just my opinion . Yours may differ.
Firebird.

Fortunate Son
10-20-2005, 08:15 PM
Over the years I have owned a bunch of the Savage 24s. Had one of the model Fs in 12 GA 30-30 and lost it paying for a divorce! The plastic (?) stock just did not feel right. Right now I have an old 24 in 22/410 with the barrel selector on the side and it is going to be the starter gun for my little girl. Had one in 222 20 GA that I really liked, but gave it to my oldest son. My Dad has one in 357 Maxie 20 GA just sitting around. And, last but not least, I have one off at the smith's being re-chambered from 357 Mag over 20 GA to 35/30-30. Here in the Deep South, it should make a fine gun to use while on a deer stand. You could use the 3 inch 20 with buckshot for running shots and the 35/30-30 should have plenty of umpf for any rifle shot you might make. As you can tell, I have a hangup on combination guns. Dad got me started with a drilling. I really like the concept of the Savage 24s, but they are not the finest made gun, especially some of the late model ones I have seen. With a little stock work and a trigger job, they are okay. They are fun to play with but I agree the prices for the new ones are unrealistic.

Can't wait to get that 35/30-30 back.....

buckshot roberts
10-20-2005, 08:49 PM
;) Hey how you been Fortunate son, yes I had one of the model savage 24 in 22/20, it was used at the time had it, My grand-dad gave it to me, it was the first gun I ever had, yep they are make'n a come back, and just a pit high as you said.

Fortunate Son
10-21-2005, 07:36 PM
Buckshot

I'm doing well. Got most of the outside storm damage cleaned up and have gone back to work full time for the Navy. Now I have to get started on the inside rebuilding of the houses. Doesn't leave much time to play with the guns. :(

And, to top it all off, deer bow season is open and I am sitting here. Looks like a lot of weekend work ahead. I didn't even get a chance to get my feed plots in! But no complaints here. I was at the local gun shop the other day and they have over 600 guns in for repair from storm damage. Some really sad looking ones. I've got four in my shop from a neighbor that were under water for five days (salt water!). A lot of folks took it tough here.

Sorry for getting off the subject. As for the Savage 24s, unless they improve quality or lower prices, I don't think they can compete in the market.

Regards to all,

gitano
10-25-2005, 03:49 PM
Springfield M6 - Ack Ack, choke, gasp. The ugliest gun since the Enfield SMLE. If someone came up to me while I was in the woods with one, I'd hide it in the bushes and tell 'em I lost my gun before I'd admit to carrying (let alone owning), one. ;)

For my "wish list" for the Mod. 24, I'd like a Hornet on top and a 28 below. Great grouse gun. Not enough coyotes up here to bother with having a gun chambered especially for them. However, I find O/Us unappealing to the eye in any form. If we're gonna talk "wish" here anyway, I'd prefer the "Cape gun" SxS configuration. Better yet, a drilling - same cartridge and gauge - Hornet and 28.

Ol' Easy-goin', Unopinionated,
Paul

RatherBHuntin
10-25-2005, 05:33 PM
Ol' Easy-goin', Unopinionated,
Paul

lol, hahaha, LOL, hohoho, HAHAHAHA,
Now thats rich Gitano.

Jay Edward
10-26-2005, 09:41 PM
Springfield M6 - Ack Ack, choke, gasp. The ugliest gun since the Enfield SMLE. If someone came up to me while I was in the woods with one, I'd hide it in the bushes and tell 'em I lost my gun before I'd admit to carrying (let alone owning), one. ;)
Hmmmmph! Just point me to those 'bushes', will ya?

For my "wish list" for the Mod. 24, I'd like a Hornet on top and a 28 below. Great grouse gun. Not enough coyotes up here to bother with having a gun chambered especially for them. However, I find O/Us unappealing to the eye in any form. If we're gonna talk "wish" here anyway, I'd prefer the "Cape gun" SxS configuration. Better yet, a drilling - same cartridge and gauge - Hornet and 28.
What I'm after is .22 Hornet over .45 Colt.

Ol' Easy-goin', Unopinionated,
Well now...here's the right place for that 'Ack Ack, choke, gasp'.

Paul

I've been trying to locate a drilling for you... .22 LR/.22 LR over .22 Mag. so the recoil won't be so bad.:D

Fortunate Son
10-27-2005, 12:59 PM
What do Springfield M6s go for these days when you can locate one? It would be an interesting addition to our collection of combos and drillings. We've got one of the old Bronco 410/22s. Very interesting. I couldn't find reference to one on the net anywhere. I know they were only made for a short time. Can anyone tell when?

Tangledj
11-09-2005, 08:21 PM
Hey guys! Noob here.I was typing random titles on the web looking for a custom stock for a 24f.....well I ended up here.
Anyway,Im looking to buy the savage 24F 30/30 over 12ga.A friend found it for
me in his buddy's gun shop that is closing. $460 out the door.
To make along story short I've never held one of these guns but love the concept.I have alittle coyote problem around here Id like to solve,and this gun might be alot of help.....But could this gun be equiped with a nice thumbhole stock??
Sorry for the ramblin,and thanks for any info.

Tangledj
11-11-2005, 03:58 PM
Anybody?:(

Hunterbug
11-11-2005, 07:11 PM
I don't see why it couldnb't be done but you would probably have to make the stock yourself or have a custom job. I doubt that anyone makes an aftermarket thumbhole for this gun. There wouldn't be enough demand.

Tangledj
11-11-2005, 09:32 PM
just what I was afraid of.

Charles E. Wilkins
12-10-2005, 03:07 PM
Sounds Like A Good Idea To Me! The Diffculty Would Be Deciding On The Calibre & Guage To Use. Personnaly, I Would Like For It To Be A .358 Winchester Over A 28 Guage.that Would Take Care Of Every -thing From A Grizzly To A Pesky Squirrel. Would Also Be A Excellent "survial" Weapon.

Charles E. Wilkins
12-10-2005, 03:25 PM
This Is To "fortunate Son" In The Yesteryear The Savage 24 F Was A Quality Firearm. A Littlt Heavier, A Little Longe Than I Personnaly Like, But Of Very Good Quality, To Bad Savage Changed It To The Current Modles. I Have A Savage 24 From The Early 40's, Chopped The Barrel To 17", Installed A Receiver Sight, New Stock From Ramline. Carry It For A Survial Weapon In A Super Cub, However 22/410 Is Not Very Much Of A Conifidence Builder In Alaska.

Fortunate Son
12-10-2005, 11:32 PM
Charles

I have not see your posts before so I would like to welcome you. I totally agree with you. The early 24Fs were nice weapons. The one I had shot and handled well. The systhetic stock just did not feel right. That is purely subjective and I cannot give you a solid reason for it. I have not fired or even handled one of the newer versions. The next time I see one at a gun shop or show, I will take a much closer look. I just cannot believe they would be worth what they are asking for them.

Your modifed 24 sounds like a really practical gun. Have you tried slugs in the 410? I never considered putting a receiver sight on one, but it sounds like a good idea. I recently decided that I am going to try receiver sights for hunting again. Going to go back to using my Springfields if my eyes can hold up. :eek:

Charles E. Wilkins
12-11-2005, 03:58 PM
To: Fortunate Son: Delighted to receive your welcome message.
This is the first time I've ever done anything like this, but there was just to many questions by apparently "novices" to the gun world that I just couldn' resist. The 60+ years that I have prowled the wildreness from Louisana to Alaska and being a gun nut has left me with some pretty definate opinions, knowledgeable, I hope. If my somewhat caustic remarks can help someone all the better. I've always had a soft spot for the 24's, have owned several over the years. The current one developed from an idea of a real old friend that I had here in Alaska. He had a pristine .22/410 with beautiful wood. I got mine out of a trash barrel at a pawn shop in Seattle, WA. for $25 bucks. It had a stock from a 99 savage on it, order a new systhetic from Ramline, still have the original plastic forearm on it. As I said before the .22/410 is just not a good calibre here.It's fine for survial, small game, etc.,but there's a good chance of meeting a 1000 # bear face to face and you sure wish for something a little larger across the bore. Well I've rattled on so I'D better get off for now, pleas forgive the typing. Having to use the one finger hunt and peck system these days, I'm recovering from a stroke . Hope to see more from you on the forum. ;)

slamfire
12-11-2005, 10:16 PM
Springfield M6 - Ack Ack, choke, gasp. The ugliest gun since the Enfield SMLE. If someone came up to me while I was in the woods with one, I'd hide it in the bushes and tell 'em I lost my gun before I'd admit to carrying (let alone owning), one. ;)

For my "wish list" for the Mod. 24, I'd like a Hornet on top and a 28 below. Great grouse gun. Not enough coyotes up here to bother with having a gun chambered especially for them. However, I find O/Us unappealing to the eye in any form. If we're gonna talk "wish" here anyway, I'd prefer the "Cape gun" SxS configuration. Better yet, a drilling - same cartridge and gauge - Hornet and 28.

Ol' Easy-goin', Unopinionated,
Paul Well if you happen to inheirit an M6, or win one in a drawing, send it to me. :eek: I need a tractor gun, the grouse are drivin' me crazy, they can't be found on foot. :confused: