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Lost Hunta
10-22-2004, 04:18 PM
Is this gun worth the very attractive price? MRSP is like $330 (guess) but most stores sell em' for under $300 usually.
heres a photo
http://www.hr1871.com/firearms/large/ultrahunt.jpg

Marlin917VS
10-22-2004, 04:41 PM
I think its a nice looking rifle. For $300 if it shoots even half decent its worth it. later

Jay Edward
10-22-2004, 08:50 PM
H&R has a good rep...I know a couple of local hunters that use it in .243 and just love 'em.

rockinbbar
10-23-2004, 06:21 AM
I voted nay....

If I had about $300 bucks, & was out to buy a single shot rifle, I would definately throw it Mossberg's way for the SSI....
Good finish, classic looks, walnut stocks, all the popular calibers, interchangable barrels....
It is also about the same money....

NEF makes a good, simple rifle, but, if I had bought one, & saw the SSI for he same money, I would slap myself.....LOL.

Rockinbbar

Lost Hunta
10-23-2004, 10:00 AM
I went to Mossberg's site and the price is like $440 giv or take. thts like $200 more than H&R.

rockinbbar
10-23-2004, 10:14 AM
I don't know where they get the MSRP on the website....??

I saw a Mossberg SSi in the varmint configuration at a local gunshop.....It was $298....
I know the dealer is making $$ at that price, or he couldn't stay in business.

Rockinbbar

Lost Hunta
10-23-2004, 11:41 AM
I don't lie about tht. I know dealers will take off around $100 from the MRSP but thts still well over the H&R Hunter. If you didn't see for yourself here http://www.mossberg.com/pcatalog/modelSSi.htmAnd heres a Froogle result the .308 which is what i'll only get is like..well here
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=SSi-ONE%20SPORTER%20RIFLES%20%20&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wf

rockinbbar
10-23-2004, 12:00 PM
I never thought for a second that you were pulling my lag....LOL.
I just don't understand why they put the price so high on their website....

They are all the same dealer cost. It is just a matter of how much money the dealer wants to make.

Alot of times, they start out high, for an over-allowace if you have a trade-in. If you pay cash, the price can go down considerably.
Even the extra barrels on the Mossberg site are MSRP'd at $240.....You acn buy them for under $150....

The Varmint .223 I saw was new for $298....MSRP on the same gun at the Mossberg site is $505......So, you gotta figure msrp has about $250 dealer profit rolled into the price. Dealers usually like at least $50 bucks profit on a new gun, so, that is a good indicator of actual price.

Rockin'

Lost Hunta
10-23-2004, 01:41 PM
Well now i can't decide between the H&R Survivor .308 Hvy Brl. or the Ultra Hunter .308. the Survior is considerably less by about $100 less

http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976400622-1.jpg
NEF/H&R Survivor ($199.00!!!!!! .223 but price between calibers is none)

http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976423725-1.jpg
NEF/H&R Ultra (again price is universal between centerfire cals.)$279.00
(both prices were off of Gunsamerica.com but both were new from gunstores

M1Garand
10-23-2004, 11:51 PM
I bought an H & R single shot 20 gauge about 20 years ago for $60 and it still works great and I use it for rabbit hunting. It looks similar to mine except it's a rifle. If it shoots half way decent I'd say it's a good buy.

Lost Hunta
10-24-2004, 10:45 AM
I really wish i could try bofore i buy. Don't you?

Stryker
10-24-2004, 06:52 PM
Well now i can't decide between the H&R Survivor .308 Hvy Brl. or the Ultra Hunter .308. the Survior is considerably less by about $100 less

http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976400622-1.jpg
NEF/H&R Survivor ($199.00!!!!!! .223 but price between calibers is none)

http://images.gunsamerica.com/upload/976423725-1.jpg
NEF/H&R Ultra (again price is universal between centerfire cals.)$279.00
(both prices were off of Gunsamerica.com but both were new from gunstores

I went with the H&R Survivor in .308 with the heavy barrel and I love it. I picked up 160 rounds of Aussie .308 surplus for about $45.00. Makes it about .28 cents a round. Hard to beat and fun to shoot.

Lost Hunta
10-24-2004, 08:03 PM
What kind of 100yrd groups? with surplus and factory.

teddy12b
10-24-2004, 10:02 PM
Congrats on your purchase!!! I'm sure you love it! I have a H & R synthetic handi rifle in 30-06 and it is awesome. As far as those mossbergs go...... Why buy an ugly gun, that was built poorly? Everytime I've ever held a mossberg I just don't feel confident in their quality. I've sure some guys love them and swear by a mossbergs accuracy, but come on. Those SSi's are about the ugliest looking rifles I've seen, but to each their own. My H&R makes me very proud and almost arrogant at the range. It's such a simple, reliable, well built rifle that I always feel confident with it. I will be taking mine to the Upper Penninsula of Michigan in a few weeks and I'll be able to count on it's accuracy and consistency while I'm up there.

I can't say enough about H&R. I love mine!

Lost Hunta
10-25-2004, 08:04 AM
i definently will be buyin one now. but i just need $$ and wether or not to get the Survior or Ultra Hunter. I like the heavy barrel of the survivor.

mtsharps
10-25-2004, 10:40 AM
My son shoots a H&R single shot in 30-06 and he loves it he has other gun but for hunting it the one he takes shoots good groups got it used for $150 with scope

Stryker
10-25-2004, 11:03 AM
What kind of 100yrd groups? with surplus and factory.I haven't shot any factory yet. The surplus I was shooting, I kept in the black at 75 yds, all offhand. I would imagine you could get some pretty tight groups if you bench shot. I bought mine for hunting, so 3" groups from a standing position at 75 to 100yrds is plenty for me. Where I hunt it's so thick, 70 yds is about the furthest you can shoot.

Lost Hunta
10-25-2004, 05:18 PM
Dang good groups 3" would be plenty for me as well, then add on factory/match ammo and a good rest would likely turn over nice groups.

Lost Hunta
11-03-2004, 01:22 PM
one of my fiends who works at a gun store is selling a H&R ultra .308 for $190 new. Can i do better?

Stryker
11-03-2004, 07:19 PM
one of my fiends who works at a gun store is selling a H&R ultra .308 for $190 new. Can i do better?
New or Used? I've seen used go for $175 to $225. If it's in good shape, $190 is a fair price.

Lost Hunta
11-03-2004, 07:39 PM
one of my fiends who works at a gun store is selling a H&R ultra .308 for $190 new. Can i do better?Did you not see this? its says new in red.

Stryker
11-04-2004, 12:09 PM
Did you not see this? its says new in red.
Must not have had my reading glasses on when I replied. :cool:

Antler3
11-08-2004, 02:46 PM
Can't beat an ol' iron sighted win.94 30-30 fer these hills I hunt in. Good ol' guns. I use mossberg 12 gauge 3 inch fer turkey. Good huntin' ya'll

Antler3
11-08-2004, 02:53 PM
Guys ya just can't beat the winchester model 94 30-30 for close shots. here in these hills where I hunt I usually don't get to many shots over 50 -60 yards. I really like the old model 94 it has served me well. Good luck to ya'll hope you get a biggun' !

Stryker
11-08-2004, 07:29 PM
Guys ya just can't beat the winchester model 94 30-30 for close shots. here in these hills where I hunt I usually don't get to many shots over 50 -60 yards. I really like the old model 94 it has served me well. Good luck to ya'll hope you get a biggun' !
Antler,
I have to agree on the Winchester 94. I love mine, but mine is chambered in .357 Magnum. Where I hunt, the maximum range doesn't get much over 70 yards with 40 yards being the norm. Here's a pic of the buck I took last year with it.

Antler3
11-08-2004, 07:48 PM
Nice buck !! Hope you get another one this year.

Lost Hunta
11-11-2004, 09:58 PM
I just found a vs thing between a H&R Ultra Hunter .25-06 vs. a a a a AHHHHHH rot! i can't remember the name but anyway with Federal ammo it shot sub MOA at 100yrds. this just further stregthens my desire for this rifle. and the price diff was litterally like 8 grand

grandpa
11-12-2004, 09:02 PM
Several years ago a friend of mine picked up a .223 for his youngest boy. It had such a rough bore it would foul after only a few shots until we lapped the bore with a lead slug. Quality could have changed but the old addage, "You get what you pay for!" is still an operative phrase.

Stryker
11-14-2004, 07:06 AM
Took my .308 handi-rifle out yesterday and filled my tag, both buck and doe, in less than twenty minutes. I'll post some pics after I get them developed. I've done a lot of target shooting with it, but this is the first time hunting with it. A lot of guys hunt with them in this area. Most opt for the .243, which is a very popular round. I prefer .308 or 30-06. Not for stopping power or distance, a .243 has those qualities as well. I like the fact I can buy surplus military ammo dirt cheap and shoot 150 rounds for about the same cost as a 20rd box of .243's. I will definately be taking it out again this week to try my luck with my bonus doe tags. One more deer should just about fill my freezer.

I also ran into a budy of mine who was carring and Rossi single shot. I knew Mossberg made them, but not Rossi. Overall it looked like a nice gun. It was actually a little cheaper than my handi-rifle and it came with 2 barrels. MSRP $231 for a .243/12 gauge combination. They call it the matched pair Rifle and it comes in full sized centerfire or Rimfire and youth centerfire or rimfire. It looked nice and he said it shot nice. But I had 2 deer in truck and he had none. :D . I looked them up and here's the website for those interested. The youth .22/.410 combo has an MSRP of $152. I may check into that. I could get both my kids their very own rfile/shotgun, both for about $300! That is very reasonable in my book.

http://www.rossiusa.com/products/products-matchedpairs.cfm

rockinbbar
11-14-2004, 07:25 AM
Congrats on the deer & good hunt, Stryker!

Look forwrd to the pics. Tell us the stoty too...

Rockinbbar

Stryker
11-19-2004, 09:13 AM
Congrats on the deer & good hunt, Stryker!

Look forwrd to the pics. Tell us the stoty too...

Rockinbbar

I posted the story under the whitetail day by day hunting report. Photo as well

http://thehunterslife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389&page=2&pp=10

.260deerSlayer
12-02-2004, 10:57 PM
My brother has an H&R Ultra .243 and it is a sweet shooting gun, I say go for it

Lost Hunta
12-29-2004, 07:34 PM
Well I ordered the Ultra in .308 so thanks for all the help and advice all.

Marlin917VS
12-29-2004, 10:59 PM
After you shoot it make sure you give us a range report. I'm curious to see how those shoot. I've never seen one cept for pictures, but they look really nice for the price. I like the idea of the barrel changes. Later

Lost Hunta
12-29-2004, 11:49 PM
Ok i will, i'll grab the targets but all photos will hae to be E-mailed to you/others cause i can't get them to go on posts. I'll do break-in groups (if i decide to do a break-in session) and then regular groups as well as other styles ie offhand, rest, ect.

Marlin917VS
12-30-2004, 08:58 AM
Thanks lost hunter. When you do, my email address is: Andy2590@msn.com

Thanks.
Later

Lost Hunta
01-11-2005, 11:12 AM
can the trigger pull be lessened i heard they were heavy.?

Lost Hunta
01-22-2005, 03:52 PM
I got it YAY!!!!!! i put new Leupold Rifleman rings and put the ol' Weaver steel scope.

Lost Hunta
05-04-2005, 08:34 PM
What is the fore-end screw tightness setting of your guy's H&R/NEF's???

Big Red Trike
05-05-2005, 03:14 PM
To fix trigger on my H&R 243 Hvy Bl.......my Gsmith says very expensive...have to take entire action apart.....? My trigger is only 5lb pull.....not bad for a cheap gun......and it shoots very well.

THe actions however are notorious in Canada for popping open after you shoot a round. Mine is being sent to the Warranty depot for repair....then its gone...I don't trust it....period.

I am dumping it for a Rossi combo: 50cal ML w/ .243 barrel......I already own a Rossi 50 cal ML....it shoots sweet.

My .02

BRT

teddy12b
05-05-2005, 08:26 PM
On rare occation my NEF 30-06 hasn't closed all the way or popped back open after having tryed to close the breach. I have usually just figured it was me and that I wasn't closing it hard enough, kinda like closing a car door but not quite all the way. After my rifle pops open I then firmly close it and I have never had a problem with that. I'm taking my NEF 30-06 to a gunsmith soon because I think after 4.5 years of heavy use my ejector spring has weakened. I still like my rifle and it's a great shooter. I just need to take it in for a tune up.

onan1958
05-29-2005, 07:15 PM
Hi I just bought a H and R ultra varmint fluted in 22-250 and a box of winchester 45 gr jhp loaded to 4000 fps . I mounted a simmons 3x9x50 with leuopold high rings and a Rock Mount bi-pod. the circled group was the first three shots from the rifle then one at a time till I hit center. For your 308 if you are not going to do hand loads I recomend the hornady light magnum loads as I have had very pleasing results with them in my 303 britt. with groups less than 1 in at 200 yds. so far the best I have been able to do with hand loads is 1.5 in at 200 yds but with the bullets loaded more to factory spec of 2850fps with 150 gr sierra bullets. instead of the 3200 fps with 174 gr bullets in the magnum loads. I am very pleased with the h and r rifle so far and hope you happy hunting with yours. still trying to figure out how to post photos hope this works.

Lost Hunta
05-29-2005, 09:00 PM
very nice, sounds like no modifications were done on it by your self either. Im still messing with mine but Nosler 165gr Ballistic Tip on top of Varget does good at 100 but im still fine tuning it ti find that presise load. Check this out though if you will
http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=26264

onan1958
05-29-2005, 10:36 PM
Sounds like an ok load I prefer reloader 19 myself as far as breaking in a barrel goes on the greybeard site i prefer the old fasioned way of shooting till it breaks in. and running a patch thru with solvent then swabbing till a clean patch comes out. copper fouling can be removed along with anything else in the barrel with a mix of pine solvent and amonia mixed 50-50 then swab dry an use a patch with a few drops of 3 in one oil. I have even used automotive rubbing compound to smooth out a barrel. applied to a dry patch. then a thoural cleaning after. hardened steel barrels cant be damaged by a brass or copper brush. for myself I have found keeping the rifle clean the most important thing to accuracy . my 303 shoots tight groups for 10 rounds then I need to swab the barrel. the same with my other rifles. I have taken old surplus rifles that shot keyholed 10 in or worse groups at 100 yards and used the amonia and pinsol treatment like you would clean a black powder rifle and restored their accuracy to three in groups or better. which for most people is fine for hunting. well dinner is done catch ya later.

Lost Hunta
05-30-2005, 07:45 AM
what be reloader 19 eh? My Yugoslav mauser is a pain to clean after shootin that surplus ammo but Break FRee CLP gets in there nicely.

onan1958
05-30-2005, 09:48 PM
reloader 19 is an alliant powder their web site is www.alliantpowder.com (http://www.alliantpowder.com) a load for 308 win would just about fill a case and you may even be able to do some compressed loads with it. I picked it for my 303 because in that size case you could fill the case to the top with powder then seat the bullet and still be safe. I do however measure and use 38 gr of powder. out of 40 available in the case.

Lost Hunta
05-31-2005, 07:17 AM
is Sierra 110gr JHP the same as Sierra's 110gr HP Varminter.?

onan1958
06-01-2005, 09:33 AM
I dont know would have to check the jhp might be designed to expand rithout fragmenting varmint bullets are designed to explode